Mono Weedguards

Snook712 · Post by **Snook712** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:34 am

I have just started tying and am having trouble with mono weedguards. I really like the loop style weedguards on some of the flys I have bought. When I try to tye them myself, they keep flopping over and not covering the hook.

Anyone have instructions?

BearsFan · Post by **BearsFan** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:10 pm

Tie them in further down the bend, also crimp the end that you intend to tie in near the eye to a 90 degree angle.

John · Post by **John** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:17 pm

Did a search on Youtube there are lots of great fly tying videos on there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6f7zNGMOYrc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MQiTE5Vd34

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cM-gnV898QQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv4VzolNE-c

bonefishwhisperer · Post by **bonefishwhisperer** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:35 pm

would you consider a "V" weedguard? aka mustache weedguard? easier to tie and extremely effective...I am able to literally crawl a fly thru the thickest grass without incident and they are 100% effective...

John · Post by **John** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:50 pm

Please explain further!

Never heard of a moustache weedguard!

Rooster · Post by **Rooster** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:52 pm

I tie the "V" weedguard also I like it better than the loop ones, allot easier to work with than tying a loo guard.

dunfly · Post by **dunfly** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:15 am

What do you use for the "V" weedguard. I have tied them with regular monofiliment, but you have to use heavy mono to get it stiff enough. I have seen light mono "V" weedguards on production flies, but it is much stiffer than typical mono.

Rooster · Post by **Rooster** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:44 am

I use a 40lb Ande triple fish leader material, its a little more stiff than traditonal mono.

mauso1 · Post by **mauso1** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:57 pm

What do you use for the "V" weedguard.

Usually 20 -30 lb Mason Hard Mono....the triplefish will work in a pinch.

bonefishwhisperer · Post by **bonefishwhisperer** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:56 pm

depending on the weight of the fly I will use as lite as 15lb flouro for unweighted suspended dreads and as high as 30lb flouro on heavy lead eye flys but mostly 20lb flouro...I have several spools of flourocarbon that I have lost faith in from breakoffs etc...to me it is better to use invisible flouro since it is literally part of the fly...here is how I do it...I usually leave it long and press into shape and trim on location

dunfly · Post by **dunfly** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 4:35 pm

I have used all of the above. Normal fishing line is too flexible to use a light weight strand. I am looking for something that is about the diameter of 10#, but stiff like a hair brush bristle. I have some kwans that have small diameter, stiff monofiliment, but I can't find anything like it.

Rik · Post by **Rik** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 4:37 pm

How about Mason Hard Mono?

Rooster · Post by **Rooster** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:49 am

Rik wrote:How about Mason Hard Mono?

Yes, thats the best suggestion as Masou1 also suggested, It is way better than the triple fish I use....but I have a crapload of the 40lb triple fish (3 spools) so I have to get rid of it somehow

mauso1 · Post by **mauso1** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:07 am

but stiff like a hair brush bristle

ding ding ding

Might be a tad short but,,,perusing the aisles at the dollar store....priceless

bonefishwhisperer · Post by **bonefishwhisperer** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:34 am

I know a guy that uses the bristles with the little bumps as eyes for his flys

Snook712 · Post by **Snook712** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:47 am

Thanks so much for the advice. The youtube links were helpful. I did not realize there was so much fly tying stuff on youtube.

I was traveling on the job this week and spent about an hour with Jim Swann in Dade City. That was my first trip to his shop and I had a blast talking with him. I also felt like I got a free fly tying class on everything from materials to whip finishes to using deerhair.

Thanks for all the good info.