Developers are after area @ south end of Skyway!

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I hope there will be an organized and successful opposition to this idiotic project. Enough already!

This says it all: "I think it's going to cause the same kinds of impacts that we see on the northern side of the bridge," she said, referring to the dredge-and-fill development in Tierra Verde that wiped out a lush natural shoreline. "We'll never get that habitat back."


Developers want state marshland at Skyway's south end for hotel, condo project
The owners of some swampy property at the southern end of the Sunshine Skyway bridge want to build a development there that would include a hotel, offices, shops, homes, a marine mammal rescue center and "Tahiti-style overwater bungalows."

But there's a catch.

To make it work, the landowners say, they need state officials to agree to a deal. The developers say they would give the state nearly 998 acres if the state will hand over just 77 acres.

The state's land — which is part of the Terra Ceia Aquatic Preserve — borders the bridge's southern tollbooth, which would make it an easy drive for the thousands of cars that someday would visit the resort.

The developers' land sprawls over a watery marsh that can be reached only by boat, and does not include enough easily buildable property for what they have in mind.

"The whole thing hinges on the land swap," said Honey Rand, spokeswoman for the development, which was once called Skyway Resort but now is going by the name Skyway Preserve. "Given what the owners are willing to give up (the swap) is a pretty substantial gain for the state of Florida."

If the state says yes, the owners say, the result will be a "unique, once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to create a world-class, environmentally sustainable, public/private marine preserve and destination waterfront resort/recreational development" that will create nearly 1,500 temporary and 700 permanent jobs.

But if the state says no, Rand said, "then they'll have to back up and see what alternatives exist."

State Department of Environmental Protection officials say they have made no decision on the swap proposed by the owners, who include Tampa land-use lawyer David Smolker and Pasco County native plant nursery owner Brightman Logan.

The proposal they submitted to the DEP is fuzzy about what all this might cost, as well as how much dredge-and-fill work would be required to put buildings and roads on what's now mangrove hammocks and sea grass beds. But the project is already drawing opposition from some local environmental activists.

"It's an outrageously bad deal for the citizens of Florida that's bad for the environment and bad for Tampa Bay," said Mariella Smith of the Sierra Club.

And Ann Paul, regional coordinator for Audubon Florida, said she was worried about the destruction of shallow-bottom habitat in the bay and the disruption of the wading bird colonies in the area.

"I think it's going to cause the same kinds of impacts that we see on the northern side of the bridge," she said, referring to the dredge-and-fill development in Tierra Verde that wiped out a lush natural shoreline. "We'll never get that habitat back."

Based on the artists' renderings in the proposal, Suzanne Cooper of the Agency on Bay Management said, this is a project unlike any other to hit the region in years.

"I haven't seen anything like this, where it would be over the water," she said. "There's a lot of pressure right now to encourage development, but we need to look out for any unintended consequences."

• • •

Embassy Blue, a nonprofit organization, wants to build what it calls "the world's largest and only long-term-care facility for dolphins, whales, manatees and sea turtles" on the site.

Embassy Blue is an arm of Ocean Embassy, which was part of a controversial project that captured wild dolphins in the Solomon Islands in the Pacific and sold them to a hotel in Dubai, more than 7,000 miles away.

It was also involved in a proposed resort in Panama that planned to capture wild dolphins for display. That resort was never built.

"It's just a hole in the ground," said Naomi Rose of the Humane Society, which spearheaded the opposition to the company's Panama dolphin capture plans.

Embassy Blue's website says the Skyway center it has proposed would fill a need in this region for long-term facilities to care for injured and sick dolphins and other marine mammals.

However, federal fisheries officials say they are aware of no such need, and Nadine Slimak of Mote Marine Laboratory in Sarasota said existing facilities are considered adequate for the demand seen.

Embassy Blue contends on its website that "all development permits" for its Skyway site have been approved and all that's lacking is financing, for which it has contacted various oil companies. In an interview, Embassy Blue co-founder Mark Simmons said that actually meant the builders of Skyway Preserve had already obtained "the most sensitive permits on the state level."

But Rand said that's not true: "We haven't applied for or gotten any permits yet."

Word about the land swap proposal has just begun to filter into the Tampa Bay Regional Planning Council. Manatee County officials say the landowners applied for a change in the county comprehensive plan two years ago, but the application was deemed incomplete without the land swap. The swap proposal was sent to state officials just four months ago.

Embassy Blue gave federal officials from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration office in St. Petersburg a slide show of what it hopes to build, including a 19-million-gallon tank and a teaching hospital. But so far the group hasn't submitted an application, according to NOAA spokeswoman Allison Garrett.

• • •

If the state environmental agency had its way, Florida would already own all the land around the southern end of the Skyway. That property — including the land now proposed for a swap with the preserve — is on the list of properties the state had planned to buy using money from Florida Forever, the popular program that the Legislature has not funded for two years.

The agency's listing for the property notes that it is "particularly significant for the protection it offers to bird rookeries … and to the adjacent Terra Ceia Aquatic Preserve, with its sea grass beds used heavily by manatees, its nursery areas for fish and invertebrates, and its important fishery."

Because Smolker, Logan and the other landowners are willing to swap 998 acres of that property for some of the land the state had already preserved, they contend that would more than make up for any environmental damage caused by the dredge-and-fill work and other construction activity their development would require.

The proposal they sent the DEP suggests they should be granted credits that they could then sell for thousands of dollars each to other developers who destroy wetlands or sea grass beds elsewhere in the region.

"The state needs to be very careful about what they give up in return for what they're getting," said Cooper of the Agency on Bay Management.

"Most of (the 998 acres) couldn't be permitted for development anyway under current law."

Times researcher Caryn Baird contributed to this report. Craig Pittman can be reached at [email protected].
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So long Miquel Bay. :x
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In a nutshell, the developer owns land, which can't realistically be built on, and is willing to give it to the State in exchange for a smaller piece of a preserve which nobody can build on anyway. Further, a partner in the development is a company that captures wild marine mammals for sale under the guise of rehabilitating said mammals, will charge a fee to view those mammals as way of "funding the research and rehabilitation efforts", and has already made innacurate statement regarding the permits.
Hmm, was there some planning behing closing the local offices of the Terra Ceia Preserve?
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If you by chance made a bad decision and purchased something your shouldn't have :( wouldn't you try some way to unload it???

Well I think you would but then most of us would have seen from the beginning that the decision was wrong. RESEARCH RESEARCH and now they want to swap nothing for something that will destroy the environment for generations. Its time to begin the writing campaign.

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Just saw a News story on this, promoting how great it would be for the area, so the developers have already got the media ball rolling.

Miguel Bay, being dredged and filled for a resort.


Vigilance and commitment will be needed to stop this happening.
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Sounds like a worthy cause for this crew. Time to put your Democtatic skills to work Terry. Rally this tribe of scallywags.
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Key words are the last in the article-

"Most of (the 998 acres) couldn't be permitted for development anyway under current law."

They face a serious uphill climb to get this done.
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Progress... can't stop the machine.

Would be a nice place to live though.
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Todd wrote:Key words are the last in the article-

"Most of (the 998 acres) couldn't be permitted for development anyway under current law."

They face a serious uphill climb to get this done.
With Governor Scott doing all he can to promote development, I wouldn't rest easy on this one, apathy will be our greatest enemy.
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Here is the scope of the project. I am not saying to sit back on it, but it will never happen with the extent of the enviromental damge that will occur.

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John wrote:With Governor Scott doing all he can to promote development, I wouldn't rest easy on this one, apathy will be our greatest enemy.
Combine Scott's drive to promote development with his desire to reduce environmental protections and you have a dangerous combination.

I agree with Todd that this project looks like a very long shot, but I think we need to keep our eye on it.
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I agree it does look like a long shot, but it is not dead yet, and with the Media praising it, I am still worried.

And i don't even fish down there :mrgreen:
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I've got an alternative plan which would simultaneously put that area to good use, create a tremendous
number of new jobs, improve the aquatic environment, AND starve the Mexican drug cartels to death:

Install a gigantic woodchipper at the south end of the Skyway, toss all the politicians and developers into it,
and spray the surrounding waters 24 hours a day with a fine mist of chum.

The fishing would be so fantastic we'd need thousands of new fishing guides to accomodate the hordes of
Yankee tourists coming down here, the boatbuilders would be working overtime, and every species from
baitfish right up to sharks would be getting lots of badly needed nutrition.

And the drug cartels would suffer because, with all those "brilliant ideas" the politicians and developers
keep coming up with, it has become pretty obvious WHO all those millions of tons of mind-warping drugs
are being consumed BY.

Sure, sure, I know you're asking yourself, "But what are we going to do when we run out of politicians
and developers?". But trust me, I've thought this completely through. We've got the PETA dimwits and
the BP executives, the Washington and Tallahassee lobbyists, the child molesters, the retards with the
gigantic speakers in their cars, the.....
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I like the cut of your jib sir!~
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backinthemangle wrote: We've got the PETA dimwits and
the BP executives, the Washington and Tallahassee lobbyists, the child molesters, the retards with the
gigantic speakers in their cars, the.....
Please don't forget the narcissists on the overly loud motorcycles!
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