The rudder will pop up in the skinny, the skeg won't. IMO, it was a poor design choice. Tells me that it doesn't work very well as a kayak and they had to make 'adjustments'.
As I said, they'd have been better with a complete redesign instead of a retrofit.
Another new kayak with a motor
After looking at the video again I noticed, when he tipped it up to show the skeg sticking through, that it is much more flat bottomed than my Trident. Being that flat along with being only 13'(instead of almost 16' like the Trident15) it is probably neccessary to have a bigger skeg for tracking reasons.
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Knowing how often I hit bottom and damage my Hobie Peddles, I can imagine the buyer of this thing replacing the Mini Kota plug in on a regular basis several time, followed by a sale on craigslist.
My opinion....
great for guys trolling offshore who want don't want to paddle, or who want to troll hands free.
Useless for guys who like to fish the flats.
My opinion....
great for guys trolling offshore who want don't want to paddle, or who want to troll hands free.
Useless for guys who like to fish the flats.
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I can see this as an attractive alternative for someone who has a physical handicap, but wants the kayak experience. Also as we have more and more power boaters who see the advantages that are available to kayakers... they will go to this type of craft.
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The new OK boat prompted my poll on "Techno vs Retro". In my view, it's a BOAT once you put a motor on it.
If someone has a physical issue, then assembling their BOAT once they get it on the ground would be a challenge as well. It'd be less of a challenge to launch a BOAT at a ramp from a trailer.
The first kayak I bought was a Fandango from Sam's Club. 27" wide, tippy as hell, but very quick. I added a Scotty and ruled the seas. But, we all seem to have some neanderthal desire to take the cave with us on every outing. I guess this is how motorhomes came to be.
I will kayak as long as I can safely do it. When the day comes that I can't yak safely, I'll have a yard sale, and go buy a flat boat. No, not a "flats" boat, a flat boat. A pontoon boat to be specific. And I'll stand up and fish all over the BOAT.
Once you put the paddle down, it's no longer a kayak and the kayak experience is gone ... you're now BOATING
If someone has a physical issue, then assembling their BOAT once they get it on the ground would be a challenge as well. It'd be less of a challenge to launch a BOAT at a ramp from a trailer.
The first kayak I bought was a Fandango from Sam's Club. 27" wide, tippy as hell, but very quick. I added a Scotty and ruled the seas. But, we all seem to have some neanderthal desire to take the cave with us on every outing. I guess this is how motorhomes came to be.
I will kayak as long as I can safely do it. When the day comes that I can't yak safely, I'll have a yard sale, and go buy a flat boat. No, not a "flats" boat, a flat boat. A pontoon boat to be specific. And I'll stand up and fish all over the BOAT.
Once you put the paddle down, it's no longer a kayak and the kayak experience is gone ... you're now BOATING
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I think it is a very unique design and improved on some of the previous "motorized" kayaks. I didnt watch the video all the way through so I do not know the specifics. But I can see some use in this type of set up. I don't know that I would care to have one, as personally to me a kayak should be PADDLED....sorry Hobie guys, but that is my feelings about it. There are times I would be envious of having the ability to just scoot along....usually on the long paddle back, or even to be able to peddle back when my arms are tired, but I knew that going into purchasing the kayak. And once I am done, packed up and rested...I am alway more than willing and able to go back at it again....PADDLING and I wouldnt say I am one who really loves paddling.
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To sum up my feelings... If you want this "kayak" go get a boat.
I see no advantage to owning this over a boat, ESPECIALLY with a motor that does not easily pop up for shallow water. Here is another way to break this down, what can you gain vs. what can you lose?
You can GAIN, weight (cause your lazy ars won't paddle), a hernia (from trying to lift a car battery to your kayak), a little speed, and a little distance (assuming you were too lazy to paddle that far before).
You will LOSE, skinny water capability, ease of use, ease of maintenance, portability, lots more money, storage space, and the respect of some paddle fisherman... Not to mention, I don't think these will be allowed in a paddle fishing tourney...
I see no advantage to owning this over a boat, ESPECIALLY with a motor that does not easily pop up for shallow water. Here is another way to break this down, what can you gain vs. what can you lose?
You can GAIN, weight (cause your lazy ars won't paddle), a hernia (from trying to lift a car battery to your kayak), a little speed, and a little distance (assuming you were too lazy to paddle that far before).
You will LOSE, skinny water capability, ease of use, ease of maintenance, portability, lots more money, storage space, and the respect of some paddle fisherman... Not to mention, I don't think these will be allowed in a paddle fishing tourney...
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Can I have an AMEN?Erick wrote:... I don't know that I would care to have one, as personally to me a kayak should be PADDLED ...
Ocean Kayaks is a division of Johnson Outdoors, who also owns MinnKota. Some call this "synergy. Chances are good that one of the kayak molds has reached it's EOL (End Of Life) and someone decided to modify it and drop a modified trolling motor in to it, hence the "skeg". WTF, wire it up and see if the masses will bite. The trolling motor crowd goes crazy .... get the net.
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Hello everyone, I haven't visited in a while, glad to be back.
Sorry I started on another page but I move here.
I like the new electric kayak trend and I am confident is going to catch on so I like to hear other peoples opinion. This forum has been a great resource for new comers and I think this new electric kayak trend is going to bring a lot of new people that will not paddle like we all do (did) but will get on the water to fish on a e-kayak like the Torque.
The advantages are plenty while the disadvantages are few. Like on the motor less kayaks not all the kayaks are good for all uses or users. You have to find one that suits your needs. I am sure in time OK will have one model for every use/user.
I was was very much against it until I took one for a fishing trip. I recommend everyone thinking on buying a kayak, upgrading or just for plain curiosity to demo it and I assure you that many people will be converted.
OK did a good job putting it together using good components and proven technology. I think 2k is a fair price for this boat.
Sorry I started on another page but I move here.
I like the new electric kayak trend and I am confident is going to catch on so I like to hear other peoples opinion. This forum has been a great resource for new comers and I think this new electric kayak trend is going to bring a lot of new people that will not paddle like we all do (did) but will get on the water to fish on a e-kayak like the Torque.
The advantages are plenty while the disadvantages are few. Like on the motor less kayaks not all the kayaks are good for all uses or users. You have to find one that suits your needs. I am sure in time OK will have one model for every use/user.
I was was very much against it until I took one for a fishing trip. I recommend everyone thinking on buying a kayak, upgrading or just for plain curiosity to demo it and I assure you that many people will be converted.
OK did a good job putting it together using good components and proven technology. I think 2k is a fair price for this boat.