Couldn't you just remove the split ring?JoeS wrote:I mainly use Capt'n Mikes(AquaDream) Gold Spoons although I will use Johnsons as well......The one thing I will warn you about with Capt'n Mikes(AquaDream) is the Split ring can and will become a problem if you tie a Loop Knot......I spoke to Mike Hakala about this and he concurred the loop will work itself through the split ring and come off during a fight and sometimes just use without checking........I lost a huge Red a few years ago because the loop came off of the split ring...VLAP was with me and I am sure he will attest to this....I called Mike and he agreed it has happened to a few on more than one occasion, including himself.......I Tie a Snug Polomer Knot from my leader to the split ring no problems.....Just a little heads up......
Aquadream spoons
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You could remove it but some of the erratic wobble will also be gone, actually Mike said as a last resort remove the splitring....For me the Cinched up tight Palomar Knot works fine.....americanrobster wrote:Couldn't you just remove the split ring?JoeS wrote:I mainly use Capt'n Mikes(AquaDream) Gold Spoons although I will use Johnsons as well......The one thing I will warn you about with Capt'n Mikes(AquaDream) is the Split ring can and will become a problem if you tie a Loop Knot......I spoke to Mike Hakala about this and he concurred the loop will work itself through the split ring and come off during a fight and sometimes just use without checking........I lost a huge Red a few years ago because the loop came off of the split ring...VLAP was with me and I am sure he will attest to this....I called Mike and he agreed it has happened to a few on more than one occasion, including himself.......I Tie a Snug Polomer Knot from my leader to the split ring no problems.....Just a little heads up......
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What if you were really good and tied a real small loop knot, would you still have this issue?JoeS wrote:You could remove it but some of the erratic wobble will also be gone, actually Mike said as a last resort remove the splitring....For me the Cinched up tight Palomar Knot works fine.....americanrobster wrote:Couldn't you just remove the split ring?JoeS wrote:I mainly use Capt'n Mikes(AquaDream) Gold Spoons although I will use Johnsons as well......The one thing I will warn you about with Capt'n Mikes(AquaDream) is the Split ring can and will become a problem if you tie a Loop Knot......I spoke to Mike Hakala about this and he concurred the loop will work itself through the split ring and come off during a fight and sometimes just use without checking........I lost a huge Red a few years ago because the loop came off of the split ring...VLAP was with me and I am sure he will attest to this....I called Mike and he agreed it has happened to a few on more than one occasion, including himself.......I Tie a Snug Polomer Knot from my leader to the split ring no problems.....Just a little heads up......
Rob
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If you removed the split ring your line would likely get cut by the edges of the metal of the spon.
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What Rik said......Rik wrote:If you removed the split ring your line would likely get cut by the edges of the metal of the spon.
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I have taken the split ring off of every AquaDreams spoon that I have had (except the first one, which I lost because my loop knot worked it's way off of the split ring), and tie a loop knot directly to the hole in the top of the spoon. I've not had an issue with it losing action, or breaking my line. I have caught some big fish this way, and pulled on them hard. It's no guarantee, but I wouldn't avoid trying it if you think it will work for you.
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Happened to you too Chris????Really pisses ya off.....lol....ChrisR wrote:I have taken the split ring off of every AquaDreams spoon that I have had (except the first one, which I lost because my loop knot worked it's way off of the split ring), and tie a loop knot directly to the hole in the top of the spoon. I've not had an issue with it losing action, or breaking my line. I have caught some big fish this way, and pulled on them hard. It's no guarantee, but I wouldn't avoid trying it if you think it will work for you.
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Mine makes 3...I was like WTF!! None lost on swivels. You could always add a simple barrel swivel - I use the snap in there to swap out quickly (err...lazily).JoeS wrote:Happened to you too Chris????Really pisses ya off.....lol....ChrisR wrote:I have taken the split ring off of every AquaDreams spoon that I have had (except the first one, which I lost because my loop knot worked it's way off of the split ring), and tie a loop knot directly to the hole in the top of the spoon. I've not had an issue with it losing action, or breaking my line. I have caught some big fish this way, and pulled on them hard. It's no guarantee, but I wouldn't avoid trying it if you think it will work for you.
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Chris, that really surprises me. Believe you but surprised. I would have bet money that it would have cut the leader.
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At first I thought it might cut it too, but figured it was worth a shot. I tied the knot and pulled hard on it while moving it around the full range of motion on the spoon, and it was fine. I've done it with 15-30 lb, typically flouro. Perhaps one day I will regret it when I lose a big fish, but until then, I'll just use the loop knot. I've never been a fan of the barrel swivel, and the way I work a spoon doesnt really twist the line up.
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I have had issues with a loop knot working its way through a split ring, but not had any issues after switching over to a uni.
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I have used the Uni as well........Just more comfortable with the Polomar......JoseC wrote:I have had issues with a loop knot working its way through a split ring, but not had any issues after switching over to a uni.
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